5308 subjective opinion

I've been running Vista 5308 on my admittedly slow system:
P4 1.6, 1.5 Gb RAM, Radeon 9550 256MB
I don't think this system is too ghetto. Anyways, here's what I've noticed:
1. Explorer and Vista in general are *really* slow: - It takes a few minutes to get to an interactive desktop - All programs take a long time to launch. The HD doesn't look busy, however. Vista acts like it's waiting on something. - The UI tends to be really sluggish - scrolling is horrid - All of these happen with and without glass enabled (ctrl+shift+f9 toggles it) 2. IE takes a very long time to boot up, and often times doesn't even start at all - When I am able to start IE, web pages take a *very* long time to load - IE scrolling is also horridly slow - Often times, using the search box makes the click sound, but does nothing. No search results, and no new web pages will load. I have to try and restart IE. - Sometimes, IE appears to hang the entire system and I actually have to hard reboot.
There are zillions of other problems I'm experiencing, but right now I'm a bit frustrated.
Can anyone here give me an idea if later builds actually improved any of this significantly?

Trust me, 5365 is probably the best build I'd say so far :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin Hsu" wrote in message

I've been running Vista 5308 on my admittedly slow system:
P4 1.6, 1.5 Gb RAM, Radeon 9550 256MB
I don't think this system is too ghetto. Anyways, here's what I've noticed:
1. Explorer and Vista in general are *really* slow: - It takes a few minutes to get to an interactive desktop - All programs take a long time to launch. The HD doesn't look busy, however. Vista acts like it's waiting on something. - The UI tends to be really sluggish - scrolling is horrid - All of these happen with and without glass enabled (ctrl+shift+f9 toggles it) 2. IE takes a very long time to boot up, and often times doesn't even start at all - When I am able to start IE, web pages take a *very* long time to load - IE scrolling is also horridly slow - Often times, using the search box makes the click sound, but does nothing. No search results, and no new web pages will load. I have to try and restart IE. - Sometimes, IE appears to hang the entire system and I actually have to hard reboot.
There are zillions of other problems I'm experiencing, but right now I'm a bit frustrated.
Can anyone here give me an idea if later builds actually improved any of this significantly?

The 1.6 GHz might be a little on the slow side for Vista. At least for the beta. I'm getting "acceptable" speeds with 3 GHz. But by "acceptable" I mean a couple seconds. Anything that takes "a few minutes" sounds like something more serious, not strictly processor speed. Though I don't know what that "something" might be.
"Kevin Hsu" wrote in message

I've been running Vista 5308 on my admittedly slow system:
P4 1.6, 1.5 Gb RAM, Radeon 9550 256MB
I don't think this system is too ghetto. Anyways, here's what I've noticed:
1. Explorer and Vista in general are *really* slow: - It takes a few minutes to get to an interactive desktop - All programs take a long time to launch. The HD doesn't look busy, however. Vista acts like it's waiting on something. - The UI tends to be really sluggish - scrolling is horrid - All of these happen with and without glass enabled (ctrl+shift+f9 toggles it) 2. IE takes a very long time to boot up, and often times doesn't even start at all - When I am able to start IE, web pages take a *very* long time to load - IE scrolling is also horridly slow - Often times, using the search box makes the click sound, but does nothing. No search results, and no new web pages will load. I have to try and restart IE. - Sometimes, IE appears to hang the entire system and I actually have to hard reboot.
There are zillions of other problems I'm experiencing, but right now I'm a bit frustrated.
Can anyone here give me an idea if later builds actually improved any of this significantly?

Have you running disk clean up and doing a defragmentation of the disk to see if it speeds things up? I am running Vista x64 on a AMD Sempron 1.6 GHz, 512 MBs of RAM, nVidia Geforce FX 5200 128 MB AGP and its not slow here. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Kevin Hsu" wrote in message

I've been running Vista 5308 on my admittedly slow system:
P4 1.6, 1.5 Gb RAM, Radeon 9550 256MB
I don't think this system is too ghetto. Anyways, here's what I've noticed:
1. Explorer and Vista in general are *really* slow: - It takes a few minutes to get to an interactive desktop - All programs take a long time to launch. The HD doesn't look busy, however. Vista acts like it's waiting on something. - The UI tends to be really sluggish - scrolling is horrid - All of these happen with and without glass enabled (ctrl+shift+f9 toggles it) 2. IE takes a very long time to boot up, and often times doesn't even start at all - When I am able to start IE, web pages take a *very* long time to load - IE scrolling is also horridly slow - Often times, using the search box makes the click sound, but does nothing. No search results, and no new web pages will load. I have to try and restart IE. - Sometimes, IE appears to hang the entire system and I actually have to hard reboot.
There are zillions of other problems I'm experiencing, but right now I'm a bit frustrated.
Can anyone here give me an idea if later builds actually improved any of this significantly?

You have to remember that the Vista Beta Team won't start to optimize performance untill much later in the Beta process. Right now the big thing is bug fixes. Also 5308 is an old build. 5381.1 is the latest release. Beta 2 should be released at WinHEC. "Kevin Hsu" wrote in message

I've been running Vista 5308 on my admittedly slow system:
P4 1.6, 1.5 Gb RAM, Radeon 9550 256MB
I don't think this system is too ghetto. Anyways, here's what I've noticed:
1. Explorer and Vista in general are *really* slow: - It takes a few minutes to get to an interactive desktop - All programs take a long time to launch. The HD doesn't look busy, however. Vista acts like it's waiting on something. - The UI tends to be really sluggish - scrolling is horrid - All of these happen with and without glass enabled (ctrl+shift+f9 toggles it) 2. IE takes a very long time to boot up, and often times doesn't even start at all - When I am able to start IE, web pages take a *very* long time to load - IE scrolling is also horridly slow - Often times, using the search box makes the click sound, but does nothing. No search results, and no new web pages will load. I have to try and restart IE. - Sometimes, IE appears to hang the entire system and I actually have to hard reboot.
There are zillions of other problems I'm experiencing, but right now I'm a bit frustrated.
Can anyone here give me an idea if later builds actually improved any of this significantly?

I'll give that a try - I did defrag fully before installing 5308 about a month ago. But perhaps my volume has gotten hairy again. Thanks for the tip.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Have you running disk clean up and doing a defragmentation of the disk to see if it speeds things up? I am running Vista x64 on a AMD Sempron 1.6 GHz, 512 MBs of RAM, nVidia Geforce FX 5200 128 MB AGP and its not slow here. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Kevin Hsu" wrote in message I've been running Vista 5308 on my admittedly slow system:
P4 1.6, 1.5 Gb RAM, Radeon 9550 256MB
I don't think this system is too ghetto. Anyways, here's what I've noticed:
1. Explorer and Vista in general are *really* slow: - It takes a few minutes to get to an interactive desktop - All programs take a long time to launch. The HD doesn't look busy, however. Vista acts like it's waiting on something. - The UI tends to be really sluggish - scrolling is horrid - All of these happen with and without glass enabled (ctrl+shift+f9 toggles it) 2. IE takes a very long time to boot up, and often times doesn't even start at all - When I am able to start IE, web pages take a *very* long time to load - IE scrolling is also horridly slow - Often times, using the search box makes the click sound, but does nothing. No search results, and no new web pages will load. I have to try and restart IE. - Sometimes, IE appears to hang the entire system and I actually have to hard reboot.
There are zillions of other problems I'm experiencing, but right now I'm a bit frustrated.
Can anyone here give me an idea if later builds actually improved any of this significantly?

I do look forward to that. I hope the post-WinHEC build that will be made available will address the perf issues.
Maybe it's about time they enabled to /O2 switch and compiled Release ;-)
Thanks for the reply.
"SAM-R" wrote in message

You have to remember that the Vista Beta Team won't start to optimize performance untill much later in the Beta process. Right now the big thing is bug fixes. Also 5308 is an old build. 5381.1 is the latest release. Beta 2 should be released at WinHEC.

Zack Whittaker wrote:

Trust me, 5365 is probably the best build I'd say so far :o)
For me it's 5381 that works the best!

Frank